From a2cbbedc65c9200fd3c2a6a698366ac431cc153d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Vincent Ambo Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:25:14 +0100 Subject: chore(tazjin): Move //web/blog & //web/homepage to my userdir Change-Id: I96a2620ffb1d9e98a1d8ce7d97f2c4f58c2dbfd3 Reviewed-on: https://cl.tvl.fyi/c/depot/+/603 Reviewed-by: tazjin --- users/tazjin/blog/posts/nsa-zettabytes.md | 93 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 93 insertions(+) create mode 100644 users/tazjin/blog/posts/nsa-zettabytes.md (limited to 'users/tazjin/blog/posts/nsa-zettabytes.md') diff --git a/users/tazjin/blog/posts/nsa-zettabytes.md b/users/tazjin/blog/posts/nsa-zettabytes.md new file mode 100644 index 000000000000..f8b326f2fb42 --- /dev/null +++ b/users/tazjin/blog/posts/nsa-zettabytes.md @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +I've been reading a few discussions on Reddit about the new NSA data +centre that is being built and stumbled upon [this +post](http://www.reddit.com/r/restorethefourth/comments/1jf6cx/the_guardian_releases_another_leaked_document_nsa/cbe5hnc), +putting its alleged storage capacity at *5 zettabytes*. + +That seems to be a bit much which I tried to explain to that guy, but I +was quickly blocked by the common conspiracy argument that government +technology is somehow far beyond the wildest dreams of us mere mortals - +thus I wrote a very long reply that will most likely never be seen by +anybody. Therefore I've decided to repost it here. + +------------------------------------------------------------------------ + +I feel like I've entered /r/conspiracy. Please have some facts (and do +read them!) + +A one terabyte SSD (I assume that\'s what you meant by flash-drive) +would require 5000000000 of those. That is *five billion* of those flash +drives. Can you visualise how much five billion flash-drives are? + +A single SSD is roughly 2cm\*13cm\*13cm with an approximate weight of +80g. That would make 400 000 metric tons of SSDs, a weight equivalent to +*over one thousand Boeing 747 airplanes*. Even if we assume that they +solder the flash chips directly onto some kind of controller (which also +weighs something), the raw material for that would be completely insane. + +Another visualization: If you stacked 5 billion SSDs on top of each +other you would get an SSD tower that is a hundred thousand kilometres +high, that is equivalent to 2,5 x the equatorial circumference of +*Earth* or 62000 miles. + +The volume of those SSDs would be clocking in at 1690000000 cubic +metres, more than the Empire State building. Are you still with me? + +Lets speak cost. The Samsung SSD that I assume you are referring to will +clock in at \$600, lets assume that the NSA gets a discount when buying +*five billion* of those and gets them at the cheap price of \$250. That +makes 1.25 trillion dollars. That would be a significant chunk of the +current US national debt. + +And all of this is just SSDs to stick into servers and storage units, +which need a whole bunch of other equipment as well to support them - +the cost would probably shoot up to something like 8 trillion dollars if +they were to build this. It would with very high certainty be more than +the annual production of SSDs (I can\'t find numbers on that +unfortunately) and take up *slightly* more space than they have in the +Utah data centre (assuming you\'re not going to tell me that it is in +fact attached to an underground base that goes down to the core of the +Earth). + +Lets look at the \"But the government has better technologies!\" idea. + +Putting aside the fact that the military *most likely* does not have a +secret base on Mars that deals with advanced science that the rest of us +can only dream of, and doing this under the assumption that they do have +this base, lets assume that they build a storage chip that stores 100TB. +This reduces the amount of needed chips to \"just\" 50 million, lets say +they get 10 of those into a server / some kind of specialized storage +unit and we only need 5 million of those specially engineered servers, +with custom connectors, software, chips, storage, most likely also power +sources and whatever - 10 million completely custom units built with +technology that is not available to the market. Google is estimated to +have about a million servers in total, I don\'t know exactly in how many +data centres those are placed but numbers I heard recently said that +it\'s about 40. When Apple assembles a new iPhone model they need +massive factories with thousands of workers and supplies from many +different countries, over several months, to assemble just a few million +units for their launch month. + +You are seriously proposing that the NSA is better than Google and Apple +and the rest of the tech industry, world-wide, combined at designing +*everything* in tech, manufacturing *everything* in tech, without *any* +information about that leaking and without *any* of the science behind +it being known? That\'s not just insane, that\'s outright impossible. + +And we haven\'t even touched upon how they would route the necessary +amounts of bandwidth (crazy insane) to save *the entire internet* into +that data center. + +------------------------------------------------------------------------ + +I\'m not saying that the NSA is not building a data center to store +surveillance information, to have more capacity to spy on people and all +that - I\'m merely making the point that the extent in which conspiracy +sites say they do this vastly overestimates their actual abilities. They +don\'t have magic available to them! Instead of making up insane figures +like that you should focus on what we actually know about their +operations, because using those figures in a debate with somebody who is +responsible for this (and knows what they\'re talking about) will end +with you being destroyed - nobody will listen to the rest of what +you\'re saying when that happens. + +\"Stick to the facts\" is valid for our side as well. -- cgit 1.4.1